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I got my pictures back that I took way back on 20 March. I scanned the four that I thought were the most interesting; though I didn't have a lot to work with. It was an experiment. Fuji Press 800 overexposed by 2 stops, cross processed in E-6, clip test, pushed 2 ½ stops.

Date: 2005-04-04 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onehundredways.livejournal.com
cross processing is fun. although i've never cross processed c-41 as e-6, just e-6 as c-41. it's pretty.

i really need to shoot film. i have a brand new elan that i've used like, twice. and a ton of film sitting on my kitchen counter/various places around the house. i've become too accustomed to the instant gratification of my digital slr.

Date: 2005-04-05 06:10 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] plicease
I shot a roll of Velvia 50 (which is a highly saturated slide film for Theresa) the same day I had intended to cross process as well, but I hadn’t gotten around to it.

I had read in a lot of places that people were often disappointed in C-41 in E-6 cross processing, but I wanted to see it for myself. This was my first attempt going either way.

Date: 2005-04-05 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onehundredways.livejournal.com
my experience with cross processed e-6 is yellowy orangey results. i've gotten some really pretty results but i havent done it in forever although now i'm all inspired and shit.

and i've never seen cross processed c-41 before your post, but i guess it makes sense that it's blueish cyanish if the e-6 comes out yellowy orangey. right?

Date: 2005-04-05 03:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] plicease
That is really wonderful to hear :) It’s so nice to post some fairly mundane photographs with a fairly exotic process and for someone to say that they are inspired to go shoot film. Film is good. You should shoot more film.

Date: 2005-04-05 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hijinks-ensue.livejournal.com
i like #3 a lot.
photographing graveyards is so much fun, but i need to find a way to do it, with my very amateur photo skills, in a non-cliché way. i can't wait til mine is full of foliage.

i need to have you two teach me photo-lingo so that i have a slight clue what you are talking about!
all i remember is amanda telling me e-6 was like slides or something...

Date: 2005-04-05 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onehundredways.livejournal.com
c-41 = regular color film
e-6 = slides
ra-4 = printing process for making prints from color film
silver = b&w
cross process = the chemistry used to develop c-41 film and e-6 film is different. but you can process one in the other and it gives it a strange color cast, like how graham's photos have a blue cast. e-6 cross processed in c-41 chemistry is more dramatic.
pushing = when you underexpose film, let's say graham's 800 iso film (film speed = sensitivity to light, the higher the iso, the more sensitive the film is, which means you need less light to make an exposure) you need to compensate by developing it more.
stops = the amount, exponentially, that quantifies exposure, whether exposure of the film or how much more it's developed.
pulling = the reverse of pushing.

that's the unscientific explanations, and i'm tired so the pushing/pulling thing didn't get explained really accurately but whatever. i could get into inverse squares and exposure latitude and d-log H curves and spectrophotometry but i'll refrain.

also, photographing in cemetaries is totally cliche but i have a really really difficult time NOT taking a camera to mt hope or holy sepulchre or whatever, because i think it's beautiful but my photos end up looking like every other cemetary photograph in existence.

blah blah blah

Date: 2005-04-05 06:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] plicease
That is a pretty good description. I never knew what the process was for making color prints.

Date: 2005-04-05 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onehundredways.livejournal.com
have you printed color before? it can be totally infuriating until you get into the groove, since you have to think backwards in regards to RGB and CMY colors. it's subtractive. also, no safelight at all (well i guess you can use an extremely dim green safelight but it always always fogs my paper so i just go with total darkness) and that can be a little frustrating too. but, i use a kreonite to process (to hell with processing my own color materials, it's a pain in the ass with requiring very specific temperatures and blah blah.. i'm lazy) the paper so it's totally dry and non-messy and that's a bonus.

that being said, i haven't printed color since the fall. actually, i haven't been in a darkroom at all since november, when i processed the b&w film i shot at the democratic party headquarters on election night. bad photographer, amanda! digital is NOT the complete answer but then here i am back at that lazy issue.

Date: 2005-04-05 03:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] plicease
I have never printed color. I don’t think Dutchess is equipped to do that, though I am not 100% certain. I remember reading about the added complexities of temperatures and things like that somewhere.

Is there much point in printing your own color? For me printing my own black and white is really important, because that is part of how you express yourself. For color I have always been happy to give my film to someone else, although maybe that is just because I have never done it.

Why were you photographing at the Democrats doing their thing?

Date: 2005-04-05 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onehundredways.livejournal.com
is there really much point to printing your own color?

!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES - color is so exact/precise with tiny little nuances - it's a real bitch to do it well but man. the results from printing your own color.. phenomenal. once you learn to control it anyways. it's more important to me to print me own color than it is to print my own black and white. i mean, after printing color, printing b&w seems like nothing.

i was covering election night. it was really interesting. i went to the headquarter party thing at some hotel downtown, and watched/photographed people's reactions to the poll results and local politicians giving speeches and stuff. and i drank beer. also, for shits and giggles, i headed over to the republican shindig down the street, and in comparison their deal was really boring and stuffy. but their beer was cheaper. go figure.

Date: 2005-04-05 09:33 pm (UTC)
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Please humbly forgive my ignorance :)

I would be very interested in seeing examples someday maybe, if you had prints to show me what you did and why.

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